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Donor Phone Success Tracker

Aaron Feledy
posted this on August 10, 2012 03:02

Last Updated: 08/16/2012


In an attempt to avoid some of the confusion seen here in the forums, I'm starting this thread for tracking which phones can be successfully used as donors for hacking your phone to be used on Ting. I'd like to keep this thread from getting too cluttered, so please keep comments to a minimum. I will include links to the threads used for discussing these various phones, so please do not post any questions about specific phones here. Read their respective threads and if you still have questions, please ask there.

The following table lists phones that are sold by Ting along with which features have been confirmed transplantable. The names of the phones are linked to threads which contain relevant info. I will update this table as new information becomes available.

Phone
Voice
SMS
1x Data
3G Data
WiMax
4G LTE
Notes
Samsung M370 X X X X X      
Kyocera Brio X X X X        
LG Optimus S X X X X X      
Sanyo Vero X X X X X     Discontinued
HTC Detail X X X X X     Discontinued
Samsung Conquer X X           Discontinued
 

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Ken Schafer
Ting

Thanks Aaron!

I've pinned this post to the top of the Hacks forum.

We'll see how unwieldy the thread becomes as time goes on. :)

August 10, 2012 08:16
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Ken Kinder
Ting Army

You can add the HTC Detail as a successful donor phone on all accounts but WiMax and 3G LTE. I did, however, use CDMA Workshop to do it, so if you're using FOSS tools, YMMV.

August 15, 2012 02:57
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Aaron Feledy
Ting Army

Thanks Ken, is there any chance there is a thread that discusses that device as a doner? I'd like to include a link if so.

August 16, 2012 10:54
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Ken Kinder
Ting Army

No problem. I posted from notes what I did:

https://help.ting.com/entries/21868383-htc-detail-as-a-donor-phone

August 16, 2012 14:04
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Phillip Mocek

What exactly does it mean for a feature to be transplantable?  I'm concerned that the fact that some are not so indicates that the network will bar devices with certain ESNs from performing certain actions.

I ordered a Kyocera Brio from Ting yesterday and hope to use its ESN in a Samsung SPH-D700 that I'm now using with Sprint.  Until seeing this thread, I assumed that my phone would have all the same capabilities on a given network regardless of what ESN it uses.

August 16, 2012 16:06
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Ken Kinder
Ting Army

Phillip, the issue is that the Brio doesn't have (apparently) 3G access, or if it does, the 3G keys haven't been found. So you might be limited to slower 1xRTT data, which is around 100Mbps -- acceptable for email, but pretty slow for web browsing.

August 16, 2012 16:18
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Joe Mendez
Ting Army

@Philip:
A feature phone is considered a “donor” phone when developers have successfully found and transferred the settings/IDs to target phone.
In your case, the target phone is the SPH-D700.

There have been varying successes with different Ting donor phones.
I personally have experience with the Samsung SPH-M370.
I have successfully transferred the donor info to a Sprint HTC Evo 4G.

While it may take some reading/researching to
transfer the settings to the donor phone, the most difficult part is usually  extracting the AAA Shared Password and HA Shared Password for “Profile-0” (3G data) and “Profile-1” from the donor phone.

Bottom line, anyone who want to use a Ting donor phone should do their research. . .  as you are doing.

August 16, 2012 16:25
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Joe Mendez
Ting Army

One more thing...
With the M370, I my Evo 4G now has: Calling, Texting, 2G and 3G data

I do not have experience using the Brio.
Based on my last reading (about 1 week ago), it sounds like they were still working on getting “3G” data working.

August 16, 2012 16:34
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Phillip Mocek

Thanks, Joe and Ken.  That's disappointing news.  I've said for years that I wanted a mobile carrier who would take my money and shovel my bits.  A few days ago, I got my new-to-me Android phones rooted and flashed with Cyanogenmod, then learned that Sprint would require me to change plans to one that costs 50% more just to replace my Treos.  I found out about Ting yesterday, ordered a phone a couple hours later, and was hoping to dump Sprint next week.  I thought this was going to be a matter of finding a Windows machine to run CDMA Workshop, plugging in each phone, tappy-tap-tap, and a phone call to Ting.  It sounds like there's more tinkering to be done.

Thanks to everyone who's working on this.  I hope to contribute to the effort.

August 16, 2012 16:36
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Samuel A
Ting Army
Philip: That sounds about right. Just use the M370 and not the Brio. One person claimed they got the code to get 3G access from the Brio. Everyone else has not been able to. The person who said they got the code has not confirmed this. So right now the only phone to use as a donor is the M370 unless you like really slow data and a much more complicated flashing process, in which case grab a Brio.
August 17, 2012 16:52
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Brook Jordan

Great news. I just joined Ting and got an M370. I have an Evo 4g from Sprint. Glad to hear I can use it as a donor. I didn't purchase it with that intent, but since it'll work I'm going to dig in some more and give it a shot. Thanks for putting the list together.

August 18, 2012 11:38
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Joe Mendez
Ting Army

@Brook:
I have been running my Evo 4G on the Ting service for about 10 days.
Everything works perfectly on my Evo 4G!  Calls, Texting, Data (2G and 3G).
I do not do MMS, so I cannot vouch for that.  Though I believe "Joey S" may have got it working.

Cheers! 

August 18, 2012 13:02
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Brook Jordan

@Joe

Awesome! Glad to hear it works well. My Evo has been rooted (for years) and I'm fairly familiar with hacking around on Android. There seem to be a lot of good threads written up on the overall process. 

August 18, 2012 13:12
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Worth Dayley

Is the Samsung M370 discontinued?  I don't see it on the devices page, but I could just be dumb.

August 28, 2012 13:27
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Brook Jordan

@Worth: Yep it's currently sold out unfortunately. 

August 28, 2012 13:39
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Worth Dayley

Ah, sold out but not discontinued?

August 28, 2012 13:44
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Brook Jordan

@Worth: I'm not sure. Here's the quote from their blog post from a few days ago:

"There are still some challenges but fortunately, they’re of the “good problem to have” variety; demand outstripping supply. The not so good problem to have: a surprise supplier issue means we’re currently running low on stock of the Samsung M370."

https://ting.com/blog/device-update-announcing-the-motorola-photon-q-on-ting/

August 28, 2012 13:55
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Daniel Bradford

I can confirm the Sanyo Zio works Voice, SMS, 1x and 3g data.  I don't use so haven't tested MMS, but have no reason to think it would work also. "donated" 4 of them when we first switched  to Ting .

September 29, 2012 23:34
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Lee Sutkowi

I successfully donated my Ting Optimus S to my Sprint Evo 4G LTE. Everything is working fine (except LTE, but that isn't available where I live anyway), thanks for all of the support and the guides in the forums. Could not have done this without it, Ting rocks!

October 03, 2012 16:31
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Ray Richland

It would be awesome (and make a lot of sense) to also add some sort of "transplant recipient" matrix here too. In other words, a table listing the phones that have been successfully brought onto ting, using these donors. iPhone, anyone?

October 25, 2012 14:24
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Vivek Gani

Anyone know which phones are the cheapest to buy as 'sprint' phones, then port them onto ting, then use the phone as a donor for something nicer with at least 3g data?

Curious because I have some older sprint phones laying around in a closet that supposedly had 3g data. 

December 13, 2012 19:33
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Michael Kirichenko
Ting Army

Successfully ported a Galaxy SIII, using an HTC EVO 4G as a donor phone.

Confirmed Working Features:
- Voice
- SMS
- MMS
- 1x Data (2G)

ToDo:
- 3G Data (Keys Import)
- 4G/LTE Data (APN Config)

This is the most programming I've done in years.

September 14, 2013 16:22
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Bruce Osborne
Ting Army

Michael,

Why did you go to all that trouble?

If the Sprint Galaxy SIII had a clean ESN, you could have brought it to Ting directly without a donor phone.

 

September 15, 2013 08:16
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Michael Kirichenko
Ting Army

It was a Sprint Galaxy SIII with a clean ESN, but it had the "Boost Mobile" branding. I called both Ting and Sprint to ask for their help in bringing it over to the Ting network, and they said it was impossible to use Boost phones on either network. I told them that didn't make sense being that the model was identical to the Sprint/Ting branded version (SPH-L710), and had the exact same radio. They said it was a "core firmware/incompatibility/radio issue that will never be solved".

"What we need is more people who specialize in the impossible." -- Theodore Roethke

September 15, 2013 22:15
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Bruce Osborne
Ting Army
So the Galaxy SIII ESN could not be BYOD because Sprint does not allow Virgin & Boost phones. Sprint owns Boost & Virgin Mobile.
September 16, 2013 05:22
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Michael Kirichenko
Ting Army
September 19, 2013 09:08
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Bruce Osborne
Ting Army

Unlocking the phone makes no sense in CDMA. Unlocking the network does. Any stories I have seen to not differentiate between the two. Sprint may unlock the SIMs on their LTE phones, but

1. Some of their phones have embedded SIMs that cannot be changed

2. I see nothing stating that Sprint must unlock their network to allow Verizon & US Cellular phones, for example.

It is possible this could lift the Ting BYOD restriction against Boost & Virgin Mobile devices, though.

September 19, 2013 09:23