Future Airave Device support?

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  • Scott,

    Thanks for the update. Will Ting be restricted to only those areas that Sprint allows Airave?

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  • I've currently got an Airave for my Sprint account.  Works beautifully.  One issue to be aware of, though, is the location reporting through it can be - er - weird.  Since we also use Sprint Family Locator, and have the gps antenna hooked up on the Airave, this became obvious.  We were once trying to locate our daughter's misplaced phone, and while we eventually located it in the very bottom of her backpack in her bedroom, the reports of the location from the Family Locator were totally bogus, reporting, if I remember correctly, something having to do with how our cable internet connection was routed.  This was fixed, but also became an issue with an Airave software update, and was again corrected.  Just something to be aware of.  This would also impact search functions that are looking for local businesses or services.

    The locator function can be very handy if one of your phone users is in the habit of mislaying their phone.  Same daughter once left her phone in my car, which I then left at the airport and went out of town on a business trip.  I had tried to call her cell, didn't get her, caught up with her at home, and she said she couldn't find her phone.  Family Locator let us figure out what happened to it in short order.  When I first subscribed to FL, I think they let you track 5 phones.  The number now is lower (4?), but we only had 3 on our account, and I offered a friend the open slot to track her son's phone.  There are other apps on the Market that can be used to do the same thing in various ways, the entirely free ones requiring an app running on the phone (not a great arrangement) to be located.  Tracking non-smartphones costs about the same as the Sprint app.  Since you can run the app from the web, you could share the cost across families, depending on the number of kids you're tracking.  Before anybody gets excited about "Big Brother" - the phone being tracked has to respond initially to allow it, and the Sprint service periodically sends text reminders that you can be tracked, though I'm not sure about this on the non-Sprint services.  And the phone has to be on.  I figure when I'm paying for the cell bill, I have the right to know where the phone (if not the kid) is.

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  • Bruce: yes we will be limited to Sprint's coverage area. We are looking at ways around this.

    We hope to have an Airave update on the blog in the next week or so. Thanks for being patient!

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  • Love Ting.  1/3 the cost of my Verizon plan, but reception in the house is lousy.  Hope the Airave comes soon, then all would be perfect.

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  • Some interesting findings. . . 

    Background:

    We have 4 phone on the Sprint network and 1 phone (Evo 4G) on the Ting network.

    Recently, we have been having a really bad time with a signal inside the house.  Lots of dropped/bad call connections.

    So, I called Sprint and they sent us an Airave at no charge.  Only catch is that if we leave Sprint, we need to return it or pay $140.

    The Test. . . 

    So, the Airave arrived today, connected it and the Sprint phones have a GREAT signal inside the house.

    So, I tried connecting my Evo 4G (which in on the Ting service) to the Airave. . . voila!  That works too.

    I was curious if it would work. .  and it does.  I was not sure if there was some "filtering" to only allow only Sprint devices, but apparently MVNOs also work on it. 

    So, now our family will wait to see if we need to send this Airave back.  We are anxiously waiting to move all the other 4 phones to Ting after BYOSD becomes a reality.

    Cheers! 

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  • I have a feeling that Sprint has no choice but to allow those devices to work on their network because they carry the same tower ID as Sprint towers. If they prevented MVNOs from connecting, then those phones would go dead when in range of a femtocell even if a tower was nearby (the femtocell would have a stronger signal) because the phone would try to latch on to the femtocell's signal and then be dead in the water.

    The real problem is that as far as I know, Sprint keeps track of all these devices and they need to be tied to an active Sprint account to work. The Ting phone is just coming along for the ride. Sadly, Ting users can't activate these devices with Ting accounts yet, but that was what Scott's note was about.

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  • I've ordered my S3 and waiting for it to come.  Scott can you clarify how my existing airave will be billed?  I had issues with sprint because I had to buy the airave and then still pay and extra $5 a month to use it even though it used my internet connection to work.  I dont think we should have to pay extra per month to use it since we are already paying for the connection for it to work, and I dont think calls/minuets should be charged for the same reason.   

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  • @Jason,

    You are being charged $5 per month?

    As my post stated above, "I called Sprint and they sent us an Airave at no charge.  Only catch is that if we leave Sprint, we need to return it or pay $140." 

    We are not being charged a monthly fee either.  We just get billed if we do not return it when the contract is cancelled OR "if we do not use it".  Apparently they have a way to monitor if it is being used. 

    If Sprint is still charging you, it may be worth your while to call them about that monthly fee. . . until you get transferred to Ting. 

    Good luck! 

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  • These things run around $50 or so on ebay. I'd be very curious to just buy one and see what happens. I'm not a Sprint customer. If I pop this into my network, will it just autoregister via the net and do it's magic? If so, that would be a really neat trick.

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  • I think an ebay Airave will work about as well as an ebay sprint phone.  On my sprint account, my airave has it's own phone number (just to identify the device, I presume) and, even though I didn't have to go through any special trickery to set it up the first time, Sprint knows what device belongs to who somehow.

    And mine is $5/mo also. Original $100 fee to get it was waived.

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  • @Joe,

    Yep been $5/month for 2 years now, and had to buy the unit out right.  I have heard of people getting one for free at sprint's discretion but when I called and complained they pretty much told me thats the way it is.  Hope Ting has a much better solution :)

     

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  • Hi all, we will have a blog post explaining our Airave offering this week. Hopefully will be sale next week. Thanks for your patience, we are almost there!

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  • Just read the blog post, thanks so much for the follow-through!

    Looks like the bottom line for me is my current Sprint Airave is useless for Ting and I could have joined Ting months ago.  Good to know, time to go find my final phone and get with the program!

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  • Sweet!  This is the news I have been waiting for.  I am off-contract with Sprint and have an Airave.  Next week I can switch to Ting, order a new Airave and swap it with the existing one.  Should work immediately with the router config already set up for the Sprint Airave.

    Hooray!

     

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  • In my house, I'm on Ting, two others on Virgin Mobile, and another on Sprint. If I get the forthcoming Airave from Ting, will we all be able to use it? If pricing is similar, I guess it doesn't really matter whether we buy one from Ting or from Sprint, but it would be easier for me to buy it from Ting since my roommate on Sprint is on a family plan paid for by her parents.

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  • Luis, I've been told that all four phones should work just fine with an Airave purchased from Ting.

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  • Please put me on the airave list, too.  I'm getting 1 short bar.

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  • Here is a link for those waiting for the Airave

    https://ting.com/devices/Sprint-Airave

    On sale now from Ting.

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  • I know Sprint restricts Airaves to only certain areas. Scott indicated earlier that Ting's offering would have the same restriction.Sprint has a particular web page to check eligibility.

     

    I see no mention of restricted areas on the description page. Sprint said I am not eligible for an Airave. I would be happy to test one for Ting if they wish,

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  • Ignore my last post.

    The Ting Airave page has a link to see if you are located in a Sprint "Airave-ready" area, whatever that means.

    Does anybody know if Sprint is expanding the "Airave-ready" areas? What is the limitation such that some Sprint areas cannot get the Airave?

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  • Hi Bruce,

    The device page (https://ting.com/devices/Sprint-Airave) has a link to:

    http://www.sprint.com/landings/airave_eligibility/?utm_source=Ting&utm_medium=Device-page&utm_campaign=airave

    Which we should probably make more explicit in the purchase path. Hope that helps, and thanks for your feedback!

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