Offload everything to Wifi

Hi everyone. I've been researching around on this topic and I've found a few things but I still have some questions regarding offloading calls, texts, data (ie everything possible) to available Wifi connections when possible. I've seen some topics around here recommending using GrooveIP and Google Voice for calls/text offloading but I haven't seen much on offloading data usage to Wifi connections. Are there solutions that anyone uses to accomplish this? Are there any other solutions besides the GrooveIP/Google Voice solution for calls/text that may work better? My goal would be leverage existing Wifi connections for most of my communication needs, keeping Ting's overhead costs very low as well as my monthly bill. Thanks in advance for additional thoughts.

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  • Just disable data usage on the Ting control panel on the phone's account, and the phone won't use data, ever. Easy peasy.

    From there, it's up to you to decide how to use wifi. Android phones will default to wifi usage for network transfer, so it's automatic and no changes are necessary. While grooveIP and google voice are ok, I personally prefer and use a full SIP stack. Starting with gingerbread and moving forward, android has a built in SIP stack to use with VoIP services. It's pretty good, but csipsimple is a better implementation, and I use that for most of my calls and texts.

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  • Thanks for your input Ryan. So if I don't completely disable data usage on my phone, will it roll over to my home Wifi, for example, and send data traffic on that path instead of the Sprint network when I'm in range?

    For SIP service do you incur additional cost if you use either Androids native SIP or another SIP provider to integrate with something like CSIPSimple?

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  • You can specify how you want the phone to behave in the android preferences. I set mine to always default to wifi when in range and even maintain wifi when in range. These are configuration options in android.

    Regarding SIP, csipsimple and the android native sip are just sip clients. They need to register to SIP services. I personally have a complicated setup where outgoing calls route through a landline that I have tied into my PBX so those are free for me and incoming calls on the VoIP lines cost around 1.5 cents/min. You can sign up for and choose VoIP services as you'd like, pricing is variable.

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  • I thought that data automatically gets sent preferentially over wifi when it is available. But if you want to be absolutely sure that you don't use 3G when in wifi range, just go in the wireless settings and uncheck the mobile data box.

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  • There are a number of widgets in the Market that you can use to do this, so you can turn data on when you want to.  Part of the trick is to turn off automatic updating for individual apps, turn off background updating, and trip apps manually when you want them.  Otherwise when you do turn data on, everything will try to update.  I haven't yet found a way to choose what updates automatically on wifi and not on  mobile data.

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  • Thank you Iris. That is a good suggestion. You alluded to a few apps in the market, do you have some favorites or ones that accomplish the stated goals most efficiently?

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  • DataSwitch by tomatox is the one I'm currently using.  There is a pro version, which I'm about to buy.  I'm not yet on Ting, I'm using it on an EVO 3D.  If you search it in the Market, several others will pop up.  It seems there is some device variability in terms of effectiveness, so for example "Mobile Data Switch:" by MyRealLife has a comment that it is the only one working properly on a Galaxy S2.

    One thing about these switches is that you need to use it consistently, and not turn it on or off through the built-in switch, and then use another method.

    Another that looks interesting is "2G,3G,4G,CDMA widget by Michal S.  I just saw this one, and I'll try it.  It looks like it provides more info than the one I'm using.  Also has a pro version.

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  • You should also look at AutoAir, which is intended for use with SIPs.

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  • Create a standard SIP connection to Google Voice https://simonics.com/gvgw/

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  • I've appreciated all of the suggestions that have been provided here. Another thing that came to mind was the phone number. If I am making calls through some solution through Google Voice over the Wifi when I'm at home and maybe I'm on the road making a call over the cell network would my Google Voice number display to the caller? If I'm simply giving out my Google Voice number as my new phone number and asking people to call me there and their caller ID says something different when I call from different places that could be confusing. Does it by default/Can I configure my Google Voice number to show up when I call over the cell network? Can someone speak to the integration of Google Voice with either GrooveIP or an SIP provider as far as my phone number is concerned? Can this be done in an elegant and seamless manner as far as my contacts only knowing me by one phone number, either by dialing it themselves or as the number that registers on their phone whether I'm calling over Wifi or Cell towers? Thanks.

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  • Many of my questions regarding phone numbers are answered on this thread https://help.ting.com/entries/20993213-using-google-voice-on-your-ting-phone

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