What are the taxes on your Ting bill?

Any examples out there of what people are paying in taxes along with their bill?

The plan I will most likely be using will come out to about $48 before taxes.

I am just curious how much more I will see added on to my bill.

These are the current taxes on my Sprint bill ($65 dollar 2-line plan before taxes & fees):

Taxes & Fees (Dallas, Texas):

Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD $2.38

State-State Cost Recovery Fee $0.65

Univ Serv Assessment $2.10

Administrative Charge $3.00

Regulatory Charge $0.80

State-911 Tax $1.00

State-Equalization Surcharge $0.12

State-Sales Tax $4.40

City-District Tax $0.16

City-Sales Tax $1.24

Total: $15.85 in taxes!

Thanks!

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  • Thanks Bruce, that is great news!

    Home Phone connect is a great product, and we should do more to promote it. I have also talked to our marketing team about doing a series on real bills from other providers showing how they gouge people with hidden fees.

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  • Scott,

    You might want to track down my old ticket about porting my landline (90590, I believe).

    There are some suggestions in there for a support thread on Home Phone Connect, including a link to the (missing) User Guide.

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  • It has been my experience that in Georgia, Ting is WAY better than Sprint on Taxes and "Surcharges" - as in Ting charges no "Surcharges" that are not actually a government mandated tax:

     

    Ting Bill:

    Fed USF Cellular  $2.82

    E911 Tax (Wireless)  $7.50

    Sales Tax    $0.45

    FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless)  $0.07

     

    Sprint Bill:

    Sprint Surcharges $15.98

    Government Taxes & Fees $13.62

     

    Both accounts had five lines on them,  heck my Sprint Account has an Airave on it currently and they still clip me for $2.38 on a service that is $4.24 a month - a 56% rate.  (Sprint Surcharges $2.06 and Government Taxes & Fees $0.32).  For comparison my usage with Ting is $76.00 a month.

     

    GO TING!

     

     

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  • Also dismayed by the huge tax+fee part of our bill, $4+ for a $15 bill, for whopping 29%. Suddenly a big savings isn't so big anymore, compared with prepaid rates that INCLUDE taxes and fees. At least there doesn't seem to be the infamous Sprint "admin fee" that is total BS...

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  • Does anyone have an example for Los Angeles, CA???

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  • Daniel, there are aspects to the tax amounts that you may not be realizing.  They don't quite scale with your bill because some of the state and federal taxes on wireless services are fixed tax amounts per mobile phone account or active line, rather than percentage based.  So they may be a bit higher with higher usage, but they probably won't compress down much below that $4.  So if you ran your bill up to $200 or so, the percentage would probably look great, but if you didn't use your phone at all, and it ended up with $6 plus $4 taxes, that would look like a really bad percentage.

    You emphasize other carriers that INCLUDE them in the price as if that means you're somehow not paying them, but guess what?  You're still paying them; they just don't show it to you.  At least Ting shows how much each tax is and what it's for.

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  • "They don't quite scale with your bill because some of the state and federal taxes on wireless services are fixed tax amounts per mobile phone account or active line, rather than percentage based. ... You emphasize other carriers that INCLUDE them in the price as if that means you're somehow not paying them, but guess what?  You're still paying them; they just don't show it to you. "

    Thanks for  your response. Yes, I fully am aware of what you are saying and that fees particularly don't "scale". Nevertheless the real issue for the customer, as is obvious, is "What do I get for $XXX?", where $XXX is the TOTAL cost, not the advertized "rates". It becomes a challenge to do fair comparisons when comparing a service that doesn't fully reveal taxes+fees vs services that quote a true bottomline total cost. Consider a customer that can only budget $30/mo for wireless. He/she will have to guess taxes+fees for a service like Ting, and when, like in my case, it is about $5/mo for $20-25/mo of rates, the comparison needs to be based on what he/she can get for $25/mo with Ting (and other similar) vs $30/mo for most prepaid.

    Not a criticism of Ting, to be clear, BUT wouldn't it be wonderful if Ting (and others), would include on their (your) rate webpage a button that would estimate taxes+fees for a particular locality (zipcode), and thus truly allow a customer to know what $XXX TOTAL cost would buy. You have to do it sometime (calculate taxes+fees for that customer), why not help them out and do it upfront?

     

     

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  • Hi Daniel,

    That is an interesting suggestion, we will add it to our backlog. Thanks for taking the time to write!

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  • Just to provide some more data, here are my numbers from the past two months, for two phones with fairly light use, from eastern Massachusetts (Boston suburbs)... 

     Usage Total: $27

     E911 Tax (Wireless): $1.50 

     Telecommunications Sales Tax: $1.19 

     Fed USF Cellular: $1.01 

     FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless): $0.03 

     Taxes and Regulatory Fees Total:$3.73

    and from the month before that, which had some odd charges because we added a removed a few devices... 

     Usage Total: $31.87

     E911 Tax (Wireless): $2.25

     FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless): $0.04

     Telecommunications Sales Tax: $0.40

     Fed USF Cellular: $0.35

     Taxes and Regulatory Fees Total:$3.04

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  • I'm well into my first month with Ting, but unsure what the bill will be once the fees are in there. I live in Brooklyn, NY—anyone have an example? Our estimated bill for two phones is $39 before the fees and surcharges.

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  • I believe the first month taxes+fees are low but then ramp up to the full continuing amount for the 2nd month, which in your case (NYC), I'll guess is about 22-25%... probably around $9-10 for $39 of service.

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  • We are in Texas. Usage 38.00 Taxes & fees 6.09

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  • Wanted to contribute to this thread since it is one of the items I looked into prior to activating multiple devices:

    Central Illinois - Usage Total: $36.68, Taxes & Reg Fees: $5.36, Total Amount Due: $42.04

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  • I'll throw my details in here too.  I live in Boise, Idaho.

    Two phones, so $12 + $14 in usage = $26.  Taxes were $3.71 for a total bill of $29.71.

    Details:

    $1.12  Fed USF Cellular

    $0.06  Telecommunications Assistance Service Fund

    $2.50   E911 Tax

    $0.03   FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless)

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  • On a $34 plan,

    Taxes:

    Statutory Gross Receipts (Wireless) $0.78

    Communications Services Tax $3.65

    Fed USF Cellular $1.76

    E911 Tax (Wireless) $0.50

    FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless) $0.02

    or about 21% in taxes. Have friends on GoSmart and Boost (both in FL but different area codes) that pay 6% tax on their bill. So the Ting advertised savings becomes less - admittedly it's not Ting's fault, it's the apples vs. oranges method of comparing companies that decide differently how to list (or not list and instead bundle) their taxes.

    So I will definitely be considering an all-in-one plan in the future, now that the savings for watching minutes and data (which is actually kind of fun) is substantially less percentage-wise.

    I second the tax calculator based on municipality suggestion Daniel Tso advanced earlier.

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  • (easier to read?)

    On a $34 plan,

    Taxes:

    Statutory Gross Receipts (Wireless)                           $0.78

    Communications Services Tax                                   $3.65

    Fed USF Cellular                                              $1.76

    E911 Tax (Wireless)                                           $0.50

    FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless)                                 $0.02

    or about 21% in taxes.  Have friends on GoSmart and Boost (both in FL but different area codes) that pay 6% tax on their bill.  So the Ting advertised savings becomes less - admittedly it's not Ting's fault, it's the apples vs. oranges method of comparing companies that decide differently how to list (or not list and instead bundle) their taxes.

    So I will definitely be considering an all-in-one plan in the future, now that the savings for watching minutes and data (which is actually kind of fun) is substantially less percentage-wise.

    I second the tax calculator based on municipality suggestion Daniel Tso advanced earlier.

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  • Be careful about quoting a percentage; they vary widely.  Some of those things are items that are charged per line or per wireless account, so they don't scale with usage.  Related to that, when the total amounts of the bills are so small, it makes the tax percentage look bigger.

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  • Yes, good point, so let's go ahead and list all the numbers and percentages:

     

    Friend 1      Boost Mobile (unlimited)                                                         $40/month plus $2.40 or 6% taxes; TOTAL $42.40

    Friend 2      GoSmart Mobile (unlimited)                                                   $35/month plus $2.10 or 6% taxes; TOTAL $37.10

    My last bill  Ting (tier-based with <1000minutes and <100mb data)  $32/month plus $6.71 or 21% taxes; TOTAL $38.71

    Caveat: The GoSmart price does not include 4G (not a serious consideration for me with the limited data I use)

    So of course mileage may vary, but in my case, I would have saved $1.61 with the GoSmart (vs. Ting) service for last month, percentages aside, and on top of that had unlimited data and minutes available.

    Now were the PERCENTAGES of taxes equal across the three services at 6%, I would have saved $3.18 with Ting.

    Again, it's not Ting's fault that those other services bundle some of the taxes into the plan prices, but when the Ting calculator compares bills without including taxes, it is not an apples to apples comparison, and the actual savings can be reduced or even reversed (my last bill).

    In Ting's favor, my friend with GoSmart has had a little bit worse experience with customer service than I have with Ting.

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  • Here is some data from the wonderful state of Oregon ( Tigard, Oregon southwest of Portland) where we have no sales tax but a large income and property tax. We have two phones and my wife's phone was a data monger until we figured that certain apps were prefetching data to her phone and her device was not auto selecting WI-FI if available. Since fixed and our data is down 75% this month alone.

    Fed USF Cellular $1.76

    Oregon Residential Service Protection Fund Surcharge $0.22

    E911 Tax $1.50

    FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless) $0.03

     

    Taxes and Regulatory Fees Total: $3.51

    Usage: $77.00

    Taxes and Regulatory Fees: $3.51

    Subtotal: $80.51

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  • Colorado, 3 phones, "L" minutes, "M" messages, "M" data:

    • E911 Tax: $1.35
    • Sales Tax: $2.84
    • FCC Regulatory Fee (Wireless): $0.05
    • Universal Service Fund (Wireless): $0.50
    • Fed USF Cellular: $1.76

    Usage: $54.00

    **
    Taxes and Regulatory Fees Total: $6.50

    ***Subtotal: $60.50*

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