Airave users?

I am looking for any feedabck if you have ting and Airave.

Looking for experience with:

Range

Setup / Settings

My main concern is that I will get it and be disappointed with the range.  Online research implies that they can be adjusted for their output power.  Has anyone had any experience with that while with ting?

My house is long ranch, with the old metal lathe in the walls under the plaster.  I need the phone to work on both ends of the house, and preferably outside in the yard. 

I currently get no bars in the house, unless in one good spot (2 bars sometimes).  Outside not much better, only get 2 bars.  Out of 6 bars, BTW.

I'd appreciate any feedback!

Mike

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  • Seems Luis may be the only one with an Airave who also reads the forums.

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  • I have an original Airave through Sprint since the first started to offer them. It was fairly easy to set up and it always works as long as the ISP is providing internet to my home. Some people's experience is not as good as mine - even with Sprint.

    My house is a 1980s one so I do not have the Faraday Cage issues you may have, but inside the house Sprint never got more than 1 bar, outside was usually an acceptable 2. The house is wooden construction, 25' wide and 70' long, two stories and a basement. The Airave is located in the center of the basement rather than on the main or upper floor due to cabling issues (lazy). I have read that metal imbedded in plaster gives Wifi fits, but the Airave is CDMA frequencies not Wif.

    Inside the house and outside the Airave overrides the Sprint tower, it will hand off to the tower when I get about 100+ feet from the house. You should know that the range of the Airave will vary phone to phone as my TP2 works way better than the Mogul I used to have. YMMV Also it is notable that the Airave will seamlessly (mostly - there is a 1-2 second pause) hand you off to the public network, but will not pick you up from it. If I come home talking on the phone I have to remain outside until I finish or hangup and redial when in range of the Airave so I can go inside.

    I have a Ting phone in transit to me this week that according to other posts will work on my still active (with Sprint) Airave. I will report about its operation next week. If it all goes as planned I will move my five lines to Ting and keep my $5 a month Airave with Sprint to avoid having to purchase another Airave from Ting.

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  • I have the newer Airave 2.5 set up through Ting.  I may be one of the few presently.  

     

    I had practically zero Sprint signal before the Airave.  Usually it roamed over to Verizon inside the house.   If I held the phone within 2 - 3 feet of a window on one side of my house, I could barely get 1 bar.

    ith the Airave, I am getting between 5 - 6 bars in the main part of the house.  As I go farther, out into the garage the signal drops to around 2 - 3 bars.  Outside it varies but I wouldn't want to really rely in the signal more than 10 - 20 feet outside.  (LG phone, brick house, fairly rectangular shape, with Airave in my office which is on one side of my house, approx 2500 sq ft)

     

    I debated on and off about the Airave but decided to go ahead with it.  It was really my only option.  I can't really say how it will work in your situation. Every house is different.

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  • Mikes, I really appreciate the info.  That is what I am looking for.  Maybe Sprint simply does not like people named Mike and does not give them any signal?  :-)

    I'm tracking Luis' efforts also, to see if he's able to get any help.

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  • @Michael Hughes

    I would check with Sprint on whether your Airave will remain active once you no longer have cell service. Mine totally went away immediately we dropped our last phone. We still have an account and the Airave is the only device listed on our account. 

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  • Well I'm a Mike and mine works just fine! So the curse is off. I got 0-1 bars before installing the Airave and full bars after. I get full coverage throughout my house and it extends to porches and most of my yard. I can get full bars in my next door neighbor's house that is on the side where the unit is located. I was one of the beta users and it has been a great addition for me!

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  • Awesome, thanks.  I think I am going to bite the bullet and order one.  Still stuck with 1 bar or roaming (also only 1 bar) most of the time.

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  • Does anyone who is using the Airave have any insight on the GPS requirement of using it? I have one cable input jack in the house, and it's in the basement, so that's where all my networking equipment is. There's pretty much zero chance of getting a GPS lock in my basement (there's no nearby window) - does that mean the Airave won't work for me?

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  • Airaves require a GPS lock.  The antenna has a long cord, I have no info on if you can extend it.

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  • Thanks Michael.  That's a bummer.

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  • Charles, you would have to put a LAN cable from upstairs (somewhere with window access), down to your network area.  I will probably have to do the same.  My basement is unfinished, so it's very easy to run a new line.  Not so much so if you have a finished basement.

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  • Thanks Michael. Our basement is partially finished - we'd have to run the cable through some finished wall, some unfinished wall, and up through the floor into the kitchen, which only has one window. We'd basically be snaking wire through the kitchen cabinet under the sink. Even then, that window is under a bunch of trees, so a GPS lock is no guarantee.

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  • Actually the GPS cord is a special small antenna wire that plugs into the back of the Airave (not a LAN cable). I have an Airave now and it does work great if you can get that solid GPS lock. I've seen GPS cable extension kits out there that give you more distance but you can't operate the Airave without getting your cable upstairs and in good view outside. You have to find the right GPS cable extender and wind it upstairs to a window somehow--no wireless shortcut here! Maybe Sprint customer service or some techie in a store can tell you the extension cable you need. I DO NOT GUARANTEE THIS WILL WORK, but here is one idea...  http://www.amazon.com/compatible-Extension-Lowrance-Receivers-MCXEXT25/dp/B00685RFC2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352411204&sr=8-1&keywords=gps+antenna+extension+cable+for+sprint+airave+extender  Visually, looks good (male/female ends...)

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  • My situation may be different but here is what I did. I am quite sure I have seen other posts in the forum with similar descriptions. I used an Airave for several years. We had almost no reception at home and moving to Ting was a gamble. We now office from home and we haven't had a landline for almost 20 years relying totally on cell phones. I moved our cell numbers to Google Voice and added an OBi100 from obihai.com. The OBi plugs into the network and a regular cordless phone. When someone calls either of our cell phones it rings through to the Ting phone and to the OBi device. The OBi device can handle 2 Google Voice numbers. There are two different rings, one for each google voice number. A long ring for one and two shorts for the second. The call quality is excellent. Rather than porting the cell number to Google Voice you can achieve the same result by forwarding your calls to a Google Voice number when you are home.   

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  • Got the Samsung Transform Ultra Refurb that works and the Sprint Airave works with the Ting Phone.  @Zarthan - that is bad news.  I got my Airave at no cost so I may have to send it back and buy another.

    Currently Ting is out of Airaves with a several week lead time.  If Sprint will cut it off I will have to wait until Ting gets more or allows them BYOD and get one off of the 'Bay.

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  • @Michael

    Sprint never asked for the Airave back. Once we switched to Ting the Airave service just stopped. Our account still shows the Airave but there are no charges. I have no idea whether it would be useful for BYOSD but I wouldn't want to use the Airave after using the Obi. 

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  • @Michael H  - I believe as long as you are off contract, the Sprint Airave is yours to keep if you switch.   Also before you do anything, you might want go to Google Voice and be sure your old number can be ported.  There are some that can't (mine was one)

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  • @Michael H - just letting you know the Airaves are back in stock, if you still want one...

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  • Just discovered something this morning and thought I would pass it on.  I noticed I had six bars on my signal strength meter today but the triangle roam icon was also on and blinking.  I check the Airwave and the mobile light was blinking green instead of being solid. I believe that indicates a phone is accessing it.  Later it started to blink yellow, indicating a connection problem. I then rebooted it.

    I called Ting and it they think I was having a connection issue with a Sprint tower and then it roamed to Verizon (Green triangle icon) then it reestablished a Sprint connection after I rebooted the Airwave.

    The interesting thing, is that the Airwave seems to be able to switch over to Verizon. I didn't realize that.

    I have noticed that my signal strength can vary some with the Airwave, from day to day.  Usually it is fine inside the house but farther parts of the home or outside, it can go to zero.  I was hopping that the Airwave may be adjusted but perhaps the issue is with the Sprint's signal. Although you can amplify it, you still need some signal obviously.

    As a reminder, I had a very poor signal inside the house before the Airwave. It would be zero or one, roaming to Verizon frequently.  Ounce it switched over to Verizon, the strength would actual increase. My neighbor hood is not Sprint friendly. 

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  • @Beeson: When an Airave status light is blinking there is a problem and your Sprint/Ting phone will try to get signal from a regular Sprint tower.  Since you have problems with Sprint's towers in your home, your phone roamed to Verizon.  When you restarted your Airave it worked; providing signal to your phone which then dropped the Verizon signal in favor of the "Sprint" signal from the Airave.

    Airaves have nothing to do with Verizon.  They provide a signal as long as they have sync with Sprint via your internet connection.

    Once your phone determines that the Sprint signal (Airave or actual Sprint) is too weak to function, it seeks another signal to roam on.  All carriers program their phones to stay with their native signal as long as possible.  A Verizon phone can have the maximum possible signal from a Verizon tower and a Sprint phone can have one bar from a Sprint tower - when the phones are right next to each other.

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  • @Taylor Biggin - Airaves are back in stock, but now they cost $89 more. 

    I would hate to pay nearly $300 for a device I already have (albeit an Samsung Airave, not an Airvana) or could get for under $50 off of eBay - assuming that you guys will be able to BYOD with the Airave.

    The Airave is the last item for me to check off.  I was waiting on BYO(S)D for the phones but the Samsung Transform Ultra refurb's reduced the cost to try Ting.  Now getting an Airave reasonably (price wise) is my limiting factor.

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  • @Hughes, That seems logical but...  I had a 6 bar signal with the roaming icon.  At the very best, I can only get maybe one bar on Verizon around here. A "mobile" flashing green light either means initializing or active call depending of the speed of the flash.  By the way, I did talk to Ting about this and they told me the Airwave locked onto Verizon.  

    I suppose one area of confusion is the Airwave is a signal "booster"  - that would imply that it takes the existing signal and increases it.  I suppose you could use an Airwave in an area with no Sprint coverage?   

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  • Unless Ting is marketing a "signal booster" and calling it an Airave, there is no way the Airave was doing anything with a Verizon signal - it does nothing with a Sprint signal from a normal tower.

    An Airave is a femtocell, not a "signal booster".  A femtocell provides a mini-tower for the company providing it - in your case Ting/Sprint.

    Sprint requires the GPS lock on the Airave because they cannot operate a tower (even a femtocell one) in an area that they are not licensed to.  In an area with absolutely no Sprint coverage the Airave should not work.  The Airave marketed to provide a better signal in an area (home/office) with a weak native signal.

    The fast blink on the Mobile LED is an active call.

    I do not know why your phone's status indicators did what they did.

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  • @Hughes  Ref:

    "@Beeson: When an Airave status light is blinking there is a problem and your Sprint/Ting phone will try to get signal from a regular Sprint tower.  Since you have problems with Sprint's towers in your home, your phone roamed to Verizon.  When you restarted your Airave it worked; providing signal to your phone which then dropped the Verizon signal in favor of the "Sprint" signal from the Airave.

    Airaves have nothing to do with Verizon.  They provide a signal as long as they have sync with Sprint via your internet connection.

    Once your phone determines that the Sprint signal (Airave or actual Sprint) is too weak to function, it seeks another signal to roam on.  All carriers program their phones to stay with their native signal as long as possible.  A Verizon phone can have the maximum possible signal from a Verizon tower and a Sprint phone can have one bar from a Sprint tower - when the phones are right next to each other."

    Michael, had the same thing happen tonight.  

    Without the Airave I have practically no bars on Sprint or Verizon.  If I go outside it will roll over to Verizon but showing practically zero bars.

    Tonight I showed that I had full bars inside the house but with the roam icon showing. In addition it and my bars were both green, as well as my Wi-fi icon, indicating that I was able to sync(?) which I don't think I can do if connected and roaming with Verizon (?).   The Airave was flashing the green mobile light about once a second.   I made a call and  didn't get the normal 3 "dings" or the Verizon message but the call went through.  I hung up and went outside, my signal dropped to about 1 bar then zero.  Doesn't make sense, does it?  (It was if I was on a Sprint tower but with full bars inside my house - outside no bars)

    A few minutes later, the roam icon disappeared and when I checked the mobile green light, it wasn't flashing and everything returned to normal.

     

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  • Was thinking about an Airave, and noticed someone mentioned you can't BYOD one from Ebay. Can anyone confirm if that is still the case, or can you  BYOD an airave now?

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  • No BYOD airaves at this time.  :(

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  • Mike Beeson: 

    The green Wifi and Signal Strength meters indicate that your phone is synced with Google - via Wifi, that has nothing to do with your Airave.  A green 3G/4G indicator and Signal Strength meter indicate that your phone is synced with Google via 3G/4G.  So Verizon had nothing to do with this as you were using Wifi as your data provider during this time.

    The roaming indicator on, Signal Strength Meter shows full, no Airave warning tone, no usable Verizon signal and you made a call - no idea. Unless Ting has a secondary roaming partner in your area that your phone picked up on or since the signal strength was high, my guess is that you were actually using the Airave and you missed the tone (I hardly notice it anymore).  Why the roaming indicator was on; glitch (?).

    The good news is that you were able to make a call.

     

    Ting -  allow me to BYOD my Airave and I will be really happy!

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  • We're actually working on a process that will make it easy to move your Airave over to Ting. As it currently stands though, we can work with you to manually bring your Airave over if you send us an email that includes your Airave’s MAC address or give us a call.

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