increase cell wifi for groove ip

Hey, the got the LG Marquee and I have been battling trying to get the groove ip working  and it's finally working ok, but only if I'm in the front room where the apple air port extreem router is. I emailed groope ip  that my google talk on my mac book pro works great in my whole house  but my phone with groove ip only works in the room with the router and they said,

"Phones generally have weaker antennas than a laptop would.  If it's working while you're near your router but gets worse if you move away that means the phone is losing signal and the network is being affected.  Nothing in the app is really going to be able to help with that.  If you add a WiFi extender or something that should help with the phone connectivity."

I have a small single story 1200 sq ft house and a wifi extender seems a little over kill. I used the speed test app in the room where groove ip does poorly which is only 25 feet away and I'm getting 9.2 megs and 13.10 megs where the router is. Is there another cell phone that would have a stronger wifi signal?

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  • You could do a lot of troubleshooting but if your Google number is your main number and you forward to your mobile like I and many others do.

    Get rid of GrooveIP and get an ATA like the OBI and hard wire it in to your Ethernet and use a cordless phone around the house.

    http://www.obihai.com/googlevoice.html

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  • Not to hijack the OP's thread, but I have already abandoned GrooveIP for a SIP solution (using SIPDROID to set up a PBXes account then switching it to the CSIPSIMPLE app).  I am considering though just going to a Obihai device...do you know if you can have 2 Google Voice accounts routed through 1 device? 

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  • To address the OP's question - I don't think it is a problem with your phone or router.  From what I've read is that GrooveIP is using a codec (changes your analog voice into a digital signal) is really designed for a wired connection and doesn't do well with the latency and jitteriness of a Wifi connection.  Right now I'm trying to figure out what codec's are good ones to use over Wifi

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  • Will:  I've noticed grooveIP having issues lately as well; no matter what I do.  I find it does help if you give your phone highest priority on your wireless router.  If you can replicate in your router, here is what I do:

    1.)  Tell the router to reserve an IP address for the MAC address on your Ting phone.

    2.) Tell the router to allow that IP address/MAC address to bypass the firewall.

    3.)  Set the QoS policy to give said IP address or mac address highest priority.

    That will help a small bit.  However, given the results you shown in speed test I can't say it's the fault of your phone.  Your phone is fine and likely your router is fine as well.  I would suggest reading up on the router and perhaps trying any sort of another VOIP over wifi tweaks you can find.

     

    Frank:  You referring to using  this https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php service?  Is it reliable and how has the voice quality been from the phone?  GrooveIP is certainly more user friendly but man the quality is inconsistent at best.

    Robin:  Does that OBI device work that well? I had considered it but so far I've been getting by just using my Ting phone and groove to make free calls on wifi.

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  • It isn't the speed of your connection as much as it is the latency. The GV protocol isn't as tolerant of latency as other protocols. 

    I do agree that the OBi device is a great way use GV at home. The call quality is as good as any landline.  

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  • To be honest I'm not sure if switching to PBX as a SIP provider has helped or not.  Our problem was that people had a hard time hearing us on the other end when using GrooveIP.  I don't really talk much on the phone but my wife does.  When I switched us she said she was still having problems initially but hasn't said anything since.  To be honest though I'm giving serious thought to setting up my own PBX server and see if that improves things.

    Zarthan - do you know what codec's are good for working over Wifi?

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  • Ringt now I have "Hide your Caller ID from others" on Ting settings and use GV number for everything, and I only gave out my GV number. So I guess i should have turned on "call forwarding can be set on this phone" and "forward no answer calls to this number" which would be my GV number, instead? If I do that does that mean people will see my GV number when calling out at home on Groove IP?

    And if Google ever decides to charge to use GV, would I pay google per minute when I use Groove IP on my cell phone?

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  • So I guess i should have turned on "call forwarding can be set on this phone" and "forward no answer calls to this number" which would be my GV number, instead?

    Those settings would mean that people who call your Ting number would be sent to GV for voicemail if you didn't answer.

    If I do that does that mean people will see my GV number when calling out at home on Groove IP?

    Those things are not related to each other. Other people will always see your GV number when you use GrooveIP, no matter what settings you use.

    And if Google ever decides to charge to use GV, would I pay google per minute when I use Groove IP on my cell phone?

    Yes.

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  • So can I connect 2 GV accounts(wife and I), and 2 cordless land lines to 1 obi100 device, or do I have to buy 2 obi100 devices?

    And would that mean when my cell radio is on and someone calls my GV number that my cell and obi100 phone set up will both ring at the same time?

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  • @Frank Bryant:

    I really don't know if the OBI can do 2 GV accounts, it's able to carry 2 SIP VoIP providers. I use SIP with a PAP2NA and Sipsorcery to route all my VoIP stuff.  Skype free, iNum and several GV accounts.

    I did it just to see if I could, no one ever calls me lol. and everything I used was free at the time and grandfathered now.

    SIP is a much more flexible setup and requires some subscriptions and a small learning curve but that's all there was when I set up. I would have gone with the OBI had it been around.

    A major thing to be aware of is that using any Google chat enabled solution such as Talkatone, GrooveIP, OBI or the call phone through Gmail. the first one logged in gets the calls and others though able to call out will not respond to a incoming call.

    It's not like a email where it sits on a server.

    Be aware that Google Voice isn't recommended for business use as there is no way for users to directly contact Google should an issue arise that effects your phone.

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  • The Obi 100 can do 2 GV accounts but only 1 line at a time. The Obi 200 can do 4 GV accounts but 2 lines. 

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  • Ok, so if I get the obi 100 with 2 GV accounts, how would I set up different ringers and would caller ID feature (name and number from my GV contact list) work on a regular cordless phone(Vtech)?

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  • In the OBi setup screens you can change ringers. 

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