Galaxy Victory - Hurt by Jelly Bean Update

I just wanted to chime in with my impressions on the Galaxy Victory for anyone that is thinking of buying it or switching to it.

I just joined Ting February and bought the Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE.  I loved it.  It was super-fast.  The screen looked great.  WiFi connected almost instantly, and the battery lasted forever.  And then last week happened.

With last week's software update from Ice Cream Sandwich to Jelly Bean 4.1.2, the phone's performance has taken a huge hit.  I now have to restart the phone multiple times per day.  The WiFi takes much longer to connect as well as needing to be reset often.  The battery life, while still good, has noticeably dropped.

The worst part of it all, though, is that what used to be a very fast phone, now lags at doing almost everything.  Just leaving an app to go back to the home screen takes way too long.  I think the biggest culprit is how the screen image is rendered, because there is even a lag when swiping between home screens.  In any app that requires swiping (which is pretty much all of them now), the phone just can't keep up.  Trying to read articles on website can get very frustrating, and Facebook bogs down almost immediately.

The only solution I've found so far is to just restart the phone when I notice it getting bad.  At first I thought maybe I need to do a little better applications management, but that's not it.  TouchWiz does a very good job at managing apps, and sometimes when the phone is very choppy, there may only be one or two apps running.

The problem clearly is due to the upgrade to Jelly Bean 4.1.2.  Just wanted to give people a fair warning.  I was hoping for maybe even a boost in performance when this phone eventually got the JB update, but it actually got the opposite.

Any other Galaxy Victory users out there?  I know there aren't a whole lot of us, but if anyone else experiencing the same thing, please let us know.

 

Thanks,

Geoff

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  • I'm using Win7, but they do have Kies for Mac OS.  Might be worth a shot.

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  • I've noticed considerable lag and occasional freezing since the update a few months back, but thanks to the OP's comment about disabling Google Now, when I did that a few days ago, I've noticed that the lag has decreased greatly. When hitting the "Search" box for Google, on ICS, the keyboard used to pop up almost immediately. On JB, I noticed it took 2-3 seconds at least. After disabling Google Now, it's back to being almost immediate.

    To be honest, Google Now has never been _that _helpful for me day-to-day, so I'm okay with disabling this.

    I've also noticed shortened battery life on both my wife and I's Victorys, but I'm more okay with that (I suppose...) since we tend to charge every night anyway.

     

     

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  • I tried Kies before and it didn't work for me (Mac) I found a post somewhere about an earlier version of Kies (I don't have current mac OS) and downloaded it. Kies worked! Thanks for suggesting it. 

    One of the things I have read about the current batteries is that it is not good to charge past full. I charge a few hours before I go to bed (if possible). The phone goes go 100% and continues to charge. The indicator light turns blue about 10 minutes later and a message on screen says to unplug phone,. I then put it on airplane mode. In the morning the phone is still 100% charged. Not sure if this really helps, because I have read differing opinions.

    K. 

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  • Alrighty, when her phone arrives tomorrow (got it used for $100 on ebay by the way!), we'll see how it does on whatever version is currently has (assuming it will be JB since the update was pushed over the Sprint network), and if it is laggy and the battery life it bad, I'll try rolling it back to ICS. Thanks to everyone for the input. 

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  • So after 3+ months of putting up with JB's performance on the Victory, I finally decided yesterday to roll back to ICS and root the phone in order to strangle the OTA update notification.  Here's my experience.

    First off, I hate doing this sort of thing.  If I pay $300 for a consumer device, I should not have to modify it to get it working correctly.  We wouldn't accept this type of performance from a computer/TV/set-top box/camera/etc. after a system update.  Why should we have to just take it when a phone update goes badly?

    Thanks Adam for posting (back on April 30) how to flash the ICS ROM and root the phone.  After I flashed it back to ICS, the difference was immediately noticeable.  The boot time, web browsing, launching apps, using the photo gallery, etc., are all so much faster again.  The last three months have lulled me into just accepting how slow JB was.

    I then rooted my phone and installed System Tuner (thanks, Michael, for that one) to stop the annoying, multiple times per hour, update notification.  I'm a geek, but I have no desire to tweak my phone.  So this is the only thing I'll need root access for.  I'm confident nothing will go wrong.  I just don't like to mess with stuff I shouldn't have to.

    As far as differences in usability go, ICS does not play well with the Samsung charging dock.  That was one thing that was good with the JB update.  The phone still charges, it just doesn't look like it's charging.  Not a big deal.  I'll put up with that.  The big thing I lost was Swype.  The stock Samsung keyboard has "swipe" functionality, but it is nowhere near as good as Swype.  I was running the free Swype beta before, but that's now gone.  In order to get it back, it's going to cost $0.99.  Oh well.  I can probably get past that as a tradeoff to have the full capabilities of the Victory's hardware back.  Last thing, it took me a few hours to get used to the placement of the Settings button on the notification area pull-down menu.  Not a big deal.

    Other than that, I haven't really noticed much JB functionality that I'm missing.  Twenty-four hours after rolling back to ICS, I couldn't be happier.  Again, thanks to those intrepid folks who tried this first and posted how to do it.  Now I can't believe I waited this long to do it.  I guess I was just hopeful a fix would come along.  My big lesson learned from this is that phones will probably never perform better than under the OS version they were developed with.

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  • Geoff, if I can ask you a couple questions:

    1. Are you in an area with good Sprint LTE coverage (I live in Dayton, OH and do not have it all)? If not, did you ever try turning LTE off while on JB?
    2. Also while still on JB, did you ever try turning off Google Now? Did that make any difference at all for you?

    I am asking because these are the two easy tweaks that seemed to make a difference for a few people higher up in the thread. 

     

    Thanks

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  • Also: I am not asking to help you but for my information, since I just bought a Victory and it hasn't arrived yet.

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  • I live in Chicago, which has 4G LTE.  I never turned off LTE even when I traveled somewhere without it.  I didn't notice a difference in battery life with LTE on and being in a 3G area.  But people who live in 3G-only areas may have significant results to report from trying that.

    I did shut off Google Now.  That was first thing that I discovered about JB that was slowing the phone down.  I hadn't been using Google Now since back in April.  The performance was significantly better with it off, but still nowhere near as good as ICS.

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  • Just a note, I have a BYOD Victory that I too had nothing but problems with since the JB upgrade. For me, it was constant lockups, very slow UI, and poor battery. I tried a few things initially, but just switched my main number back to an Optimus S I had previously until I had time to work on it, or hopefully some ROM developments progressed. That was a couple months ago. I think I'm going to go the ICS route at this point, as the only alternate ROM i've seen is for VM phones (and warns against using on a Sprint phone). Many thanks to all who have posted their experiences on here, I've just been lurking and keeping an eye on this thread until I had a chance to tackle the Victory again.

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  • I think I am going to flash a victory phone back to ICS this weekend. Has anyone run into any issues? I am downloading the COMBINATION_L300VPALH1_L300SPRALH1_934170_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5 file and plan to flash with ODIN. Is that still the best approach?

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  • Has anyone tried the Andriod 4.3 upgrade via Kies.  I planned on buying a new Victory through Ting but I'm hesitant after reading the above.  Can you avoid the updates on a new phone purchase from Ting?

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  • Months later my wife's fully updated Victory never causes her any problems. 

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  • Months later, my wives phone works great since going back to the ICS version and blocking the updates.

     

    4.3 is a lighter memory OS than 4.2, but I don't think it will perform as well as the ICS one.

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  • This is where I found the reference for the upgrade for the Victory: http://www.mobicpc.com/how-to-update-samsung-galaxy-victory-4g-lte-to-android-4-3.html

     

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  • @Commander Cody -- rarely does the issue appear. it isn't a dealbreaker for us.

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  • I just tried a test call to her. She was able to change the volume without issue. Occasionally, when she answers a call, the persons voice will be excessively loud.

     

    She has found that you can get around this by pressing (or pressing and holding for a few seconds) the volume up button, which oddly turns the volume all the way down. Then she pushes the volume up button again and she has normal control of the volume.

     

    Is this the bug you are having?

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  • Hi, I went back to ICS, rooted, and got system tuner but when I try to shut off updates, I go to startups, but can't find Google Services Framework.  So I still get these annoying update requests.  If anyone has any advice on this, it would be very helpful.  Thanks!

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  • Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I just would like to stay with ics

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