"Nexus 5" Here You Come?!?!?!

You've read the rumors, I've read the rumors...CDMA enabled for Sprint network!  I already sent Ting a G+ callout indicating they better be staffing up because they are going to be getting slammed!  I for one will definitely be adding a new device to my account!!

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  • I'll have my 32GB on thursday, I'll swing by the Sprint store tomorrow to get a SIM and we'll see how it goes from there.  Shoulda payed for the faster shipping...

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  • For the life of me I can't figure out why someone would choose to use Sprint directly when buying an unlocked, off contract, GSM capable phone.  Guess they have their reasons, but it's good to hear they are working out their issues.  Guess they'll have plenty of time to get that all worked out before they let MVNOs sell them.

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  • My 32 is supposed to be here tonight.  I'm not currently a Sprint customer, and wonder what the Sprint store will be willing to do for me, short of a 2-year contract.

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  • I ordered one from Google as soon as it was available (before Ting started saying the Play version likely wouldn't work) and received it today.  I tried activating just now and it won't activate - it says, "Your device is ineligible for BYOD."  :(

    I just wanted to confirm what Ting has hinted at already - the Google Play version looks like its not going to work, at least at this point. Even if it did work, we would have to get Sprint/Ting SIM cards for LTE functionality from somewhere.  This is so dumb... its the same exact hardware.

    What I would like to know is if Ting is trying to negotiate to BYOD this phone or if that is not even seen as a remote possibility due to whatever contracts they have with Sprint?

    I also do not see the point of this BYOD embargo on new devices... why Sprint? They must be getting a cut of the Ting phone sales or something... it is not like people are going to move from Ting back to Sprint for a device. I would think that if they are going to leave Ting because of a device it would be to a GSM service for sure.

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  • @Iris Well they have this, but I have never tried it:  http://www.sprint.com/landings/asyougo/

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  • @John - As You Go says nothing about any phones not listed for it, but I'll ask.  However, to get data on a smartphone will cost me more per month for that one phone than for all 3 currently active on our Ting plan, at our current usage level.  I don't need "unlimited".  I don't stream videos regularly, or movies ever.  And I don't stream music either.

    Also, as for "I can't figure out why someone would choose to use Sprint directly when buying an unlocked, off contract, GSM capable" - at my house any carrier needs a femtocell.  No, I'm not that far out in the boonies, and we've lived there for umpty years.  I probably wouldn't build there now, but there you go.  Ting is the only way to have a legitimate femtocell without a post-paid phone contract, that I've found.  I'd have to piggyback on someone else's A&T or Verizon, and I'm not sure T-mobile has one now, short of their "Cel Fi" for $500 - ain't happenin'.

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  • @John - Oh, and I left out price and coverage.  Neither AT&T nor T-Mobile do as well as Sprint or Verizon around here, for just plain voice connectivity.  I could do PagePlus (Verizon MVNO), but there is no LTE there and in fact you have to flash a Sprint phone (and even a Verizon LTE) to get it on there, and we're beginning to see the signs of LTE around where I live, so I don't want to lose that.  There is also no data yet on flashing an N5 to PP.  And I'd need a Verizon femtocell activated on a friend's account to make that viable.

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  • Alright, valid points.  Around here Sprint is probably the worse coverage, but has gotten better lately.  Especially with LTE. 

    I think I've decided on the Simple $40 plan unless Ting pulls a rabbit out of the hat and let's me bring it here by the time I receive it.  :-)

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  • John in my section of the world there are no GSM carriers that are really even worth talking about. Verizon, Sprint and US Cellular are the only games in town that work, and with data its Verizon and surprisingly Sprint isn't terribly far away from being right there with big red. I wish Ting owned the towers and awesomeness would ensue.

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  • Just talked to Sprint - As You Go is limited to the phones they show for it on the website.  As for the $40 plan - NO data?

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  • Personally, I'm going to wait to buy anything until I know its supported by Ting.  I couldn't consider jumping the gun to get something from Google play until I knew where I'd use it.

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  • Whoops, sorry John, you mean Simple's $40 plan.  My mistake.

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  • @Edward Not a bad idea considering the number of QC issues that are being reported about various N5 :/

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  • Yeah, sorry I should have specified Simple Mobile $40 plan.  I'll probably be paying up to $20 more a month, but my Galaxy Nexus is really fubar'd and I blame mostly Sprint for that, since Google updated the GSM version and they aren't having the same issues.

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  • John - you did say "Simple" - only the no-data As You Go is $40 and I confounded them.

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  • @John if your GNex isn't doing well I can't recommend Paranoid SaberDroid ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471355) enough! Long story short it is the best performing ROM out of the box for the handset I've encountered. The SaberMod toolchain + Linaro optimization + Paranoid Android (AOSPA) = Paranoid SaberDroid formerly (AOSPAL). I don't know if you flash or not, but if you were waiting this is what you were waiting for ;)

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  • John, I'm also having good luck out of the CM 10.2 nightlies, and I tried the latest OTA update to 4.3 seemed good also on the GNex. J L you have likely caused me to load yet another ROM on my phone :)

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  • Thanks for the tip J L.  I have flashed a few, but I couldn't get LTE with CM (in retrospect I probably needed to flash an updated radio too).  I'll give this one a try and see if it fares better.

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  • John if you flash CM there is a zip file you can flash here: https://help.ting.com/entries/25805278-LTE-fix-for-Android-4-3 that gets things rolling correctly. The previous issues with the radios is all ironed out and working really well now. I think that is in part to the OTA being pushed out.  All of that is one reason I'm curious to have a current (new) Nexus phone and maybe stay stock for a while, or forever getting updates in a timely matter. I don't need root, but I have been really frustrated with never getting updates while the wife's iPhone 5 gets them as soon as they are realeased.

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  • In the DC area, what's the best no contract Nexus 5 ready plan available, if Ting is putting Nexus owners in wait? I just got mine in the mail, and I've checked with Sprint, who won't activate their AS YOU GO plan for me. ATT seems too high for their smartphone $60 option, and TMo is just a little less at $50.

    Any ratings on Simple Mobile? Or others?

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  • @Wesley & @John I hope you guys enjoy it, I've flashed everything.. I'm always trying new stuff (benefit of a GNex (even a CDMA variant!)) and this project (formerly AOSPAL) is by far and consistently the best for the GNex that I've encountered. The performance and battery life out of the box with the included modified kernel are great, truly a set it and forget it ROM. Enjoy!

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  • Nice J L! @Sega according to facebook post etc we should likely have an idea on ting and the N5 in a couple of weeks. I know that is an eternity with a new phone :) but likely worth the wait.

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  • @Sega check your T-Mobile coverage ( http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html), and search by carrier here ( http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/). The first link is general and misleading (as all carriers are), the second when searching 'By Carrier' will show you exactly what holdings T-Mobile has in your area. What you're looking for is total spectrum, ideally 30-50+MHz total to support a proper infrastructure. Also take a look at  http://opensignal.com/ and  http://www.sensorly.com/map for user generated data.

    The point of all this was for the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (more info here  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001290). While Ting's model is the best, the most affordable realistic next runner up is this plan IMO. The only caveat is you're placing calls by way of VoIP and not cellular. If your LTE coverage is good, then you'll be just fine.. If not or you travel outside of coverage often then you may need to look into other options.

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  • @Sega -  Straight Talk at $45?  And you choose an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM.

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  • The awesome thing about unlocked / contract free is that if you choose a T-Mobile MVNO and aren't happy with the coverage, you can easily port it on over to an AT&T MVNO and see if it's any better.  Hopefully with the Nexus 5 we can eventually add Sprint MVNOs (Ting) to that list.

    I live in a major metro area though, I have pretty good coverage all around.  I think Verizon has the best, but they are also the most expensive, even their few MVNO options.

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  • "I've checked with Sprint, who won't activate their AS YOU GO plan for me"

    Unfortunate, but typical. It seems that Sprint recognizes the Nexus 5 is a hot handset with a lot of value, and most likely will hold it hostage for as long as they can. Good luck getting it activated by them anytime soon without a contract.

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  • Yeah some things are unfortunate...like the wait for a number to port from one MVNO to another.  I wish StraightTalk would email me when it's complete like TING does. Ting has done so many things well, I'll definitely be back with this Nexus 5 line (if they're allowing it.)  The N5 is pretty sweet guys and gals!

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  • @Daniel thats the benefit of using Google Voice. I gave up on trying to port around my phone number years ago. Whatever number the service provider gives me, I just redirect GV to that number . 

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  • yeah if this were my line OR GV supported MMS I could have had this job done immediately. it's my wife's line though and we always tread lightly.

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  • It isn't that they specifically won't activate the N5  on As You Go,  that program can only be used on the phones they've specifically set up for it.   Whether there's any real magic there or not,  who knows? 

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