GSM beta discussion

Update: Ting GSM is now in a public beta.  Head over here for the latest thread!


Hi everyone,

We've been testing GSM since early December.  Several weeks ago, several dozen Ting customers were recruited by a secret branch of the CIA called SD-6. They were sworn to secrecy...

No, wait.  Sorry.  Wrong script.

A few weeks ago, several dozen Ting customers were invited to join our private beta for GSM.  (And a few additional folks have joined since.)  We're going to start inviting customers who have purchased their SIM cards in small batches beginning today, and we wanted a place to where we could get your feedback, discuss known issues if we discover any, and allow everyone to share their GSM experiences.

A few caveats: international roaming, international long distance, and WiFi Calling are all currently missing in action.  We'll have more updates on these features as we get closer to our full launch.  We've also seen issues with group messaging on iOS.

So, stay tuned to your inbox!  Invites will start going out later this afternoon if all goes well, and we'll be increasing the number of invites that go out each day.  We really appreciate everyone's interest!

Beta questions...

So, you'd like to move your phone number from Ting CDMA to Ting GSM?  We're building a fancy tool that will let you do this in a click or two.  But, for now, you have to do it the hard way.  It works, but like everything else in the beta, there may be bumps.  For example, with the fancy tool, it'll be possible for the "switch" to happen in a few minutes.  For now, it's a manual number port.  If you want things to go as quickly as possible, when entering your porting information, be sure to get your account number and port out PIN from your Ting dashboard here.  Be sure to also include the current address listed here.

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  • That should be "the email" not "to email", pardon my typing 

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  • I put mine in right away.  Can't see that it hurt anything.  I was able to call out......all calls went to ting support <G>

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  • I see that Tmobile has a hotspot, a ZTE Z915.  Will that or something like that be available via Ting too?

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  • Thanks, Ken. I went ahead and put the sim in. I have it charging now :-)

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  • Anybody beta testing with an iPhone 6/6+?  Eagerly awaiting an invite to join the beta and just interested to see what people think.

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  • Can't wait... Got an old unlocked iPhone 5, really eager to begin beta testing.

    Is this project open source?

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  • I hope I get a beta invite soon, i'm impatient and having a new one plus one sitting here begging to be used is killing me!

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  • I've got my new (used) unlocked Nexus 5 and a shiny new GSM SIM card. What type of sacrifices do the Ting gods prefer?

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  • Will GSM/CDMA capable devices like the Nexus 5 be able to use both networks at the same time? It doesn't sound like that based on what I see above but I'll ask. With Ting (CDMA) voice roaming to Verizon at no extra cost, it seems unlikely that GSM could improve voice. Is the GSM data coverage likely to be better?

     

    Thanks!

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  • Will not be able to use network at same time.  Biggest advantage is wider selection of phones.  i would expect that the Tmobile data network will be much stronger than the sprint network.  Yesterday, I was able to use my GSM Windows 8 phone as a hotspot when my Ting (sprint) phone could not connect.  This will of course vary by location.  I can tell you that in Dallas, sprint's data network sucks.

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  • ohhhhhhhh man I can hardly wait. I am so excited!! Got my shiny new GSM Sim card ordered and on the way hoping I get a beta invite before it gets here also hoping verizon is telling the truth that they don't lock their devices.

     

    PLEASE DEAR TING GODS LET ME IN AND LET ME SAVE MONEY FINALLY!!!!

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  • Rule #64 - Don't trust anything Verizon says.  They lock all their devices.

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  • We will soon find out. They do say pretty explicitly on their website that they do not lock their 4G LTE Devices so....let's just hope!

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  • Hi Robert - I had a friend move his Verizon MotoX 2013 from Verizon to AT&T.  He had no issues.  The phone was not locked.  If you have a friend with an ATT or TMobile sim card, you can insert it into your phone to see if it works.  You will want to make sure you phone is compatible with the Ting GSM netowrk.  Check out this post about compatible devices.  https://help.ting.com/entries/105240696-Can-I-Bring-My-GSM-Device-to-Ting-Compatibility-and-Unlocking-Guide

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  • Good Morning everyone, from my past experience I know some Verizon phones are unlocked only for the international use and wouldn't support domestic 4G/LTE networks. But I didn't test them on T-Mobile network, only ATT.  I should be getting Verizon LG G3 tomorrow and I will try it with LycoMobile (T-Mobile MVNO) sim card. 

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  • Thanks Chris! I already checked and my phone is good to go (Verizon S4) and my GSM Beta sim card is ordered and on the way.

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  • The bigger issue may be do Verizon phones support the same LTE bands that Tmobile does.  Most of the ATT phones support 2 & 4 but not 12 and as I understand it, future Tmoble growth will be with band 12.

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  • Please please please add me to SD-6. I won't double cross you, I promise. Besides, I'm good friends with Jack and Sloan.

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  • I'm not a current Ting user... yet, so please excuse my naive question.

    I've purchased  a GSM phone (Moto X 1st gen, unlocked - Developers Version) which seems to be supported based on entering the phone's identifier and getting back a message saying that it should be supported. Now at this point do I need to go ahead and purchase a SIM from the Ting Store and wait for GSM services to be activied (or be invited as I've signed up for ino)?  I was not sure if there was a seperate SIM for CDMA vs GSM but at this point I assume not but I need to ask.  Thanks

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  • Hi Paul - You will need  to purchase the GSM SIM card.  It is called the X1.  It is not currently available for sale.  User who signed up for the beta testing were allowed to buy the GSM SIM card early so they could take part in the beta testing.  So for now, you will need to be patient until the GSM SIM X1 is available for sale.

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  • Hi Paul - Here is a video showing off the new GSM X1 SIM card.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkJTzY0fKU

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  • @ken Olson Ken, the issue is actually worse than you can imagine on band coverage. As tmo reforms 2g to LTE, not even all tmo sold phones cover all bands used by TMO. I strongly suggest everyone thinking about gsm look at the very new TMO coverage map, as it now shows if LTE will be on the refarmed bands, such as 1900, and it shows what TMO phones get these bands.

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  • So excited! Hurry!

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  • Some you people are supes nerdy!

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  • Is it better to buy an iphone for the "pink network" or an actual unlocked iphone 6 from the apple store?  After doing some reading, it seems the "pink network" iphone is more compatible.  What say you?

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  • If you are buying from Apple, you need to buy it unlocked for the magenta network. Otherwise they will require you to have a contract with that network. It would be the same phone as far as compatibility goes.

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  • Goodnight and good morning forum dwellers! I leave you with your thought of the day... Wouldn't it be swell to be invited to the Ting GSM beta?

    Sorry for the nagging, I was dropped on the head as a child. Have a nice day everyone.

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  • OK so I have a GSM phone and a Ting GSM Sim and have been waiting...  I'm a member of the Ting Army and signed up for the GSM Beta.  How long are we going to have to wait to get an invite?  I'm feeling left out!!

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  • Yes...I could use an invite myself. I've got the GSM SIM card and a shiny new Oneplus One, and I would like it to be something more than a very nice, yet tiny wi-fi only tablet. Pretty please :-)

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  • Ting is not being difficult. They are working on all the issues behind the scenes to make this as good as it can be.

    They are slowly adding testers while working on outstanding issues & missing features. This i sa huge undertaking, much larger than BYOD was. Just when I get an idea of the scope of this, I find out more complexity.

    Ting has only one chance to make a good impression. It could be a major problem if things are not ready to meet the massive demand.

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