Two cell phones, one google voice account via Groove IP

Hello.

Is the following possible (or is there a better way of achieving similar results)?

 

Current configuration:

Had two cells on ATT, ported one # to google voice and ended contracts for both.

Joined Ting, two new GS3s w/new numbers.

Installed Groove IP on my new S3 and configured it to the GV account tied to my old cell #.

Works great so far...

 

The question:

The second new ting S3 (wifes)... i want to put Groove IP on as well, mostly for outbound calls on WIFI... can we use the same GV account and if so, are there any issues with making outbound calls concurrently?  Or what if we call each other ?

 

Thoughts?

 

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  • I would just try it. There shouldn't be any big problem if it doesn't work as you expect but you won't find out until you try. 

     

    Is there a reason you can't just set up another GV number for the second phone?

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  • I would just try it. There shouldn't be any big problem if it doesn't work as you expect but you won't find out until you try. 

     

    Is there a reason you can't just set up another GV number for the second phone?

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  •  GV only chooses one chat endpoint based on an activity/priority scheme, with no forking support.

    A method better suited for multiple logins would be to use a SIP solution.

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  • (Translation of Robin's first line: only one phone will fully work on GrooveIP at a time. The other won't receive calls. Which one will seem random.)

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  • Looks like a mild case of sheldon_itus_

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  • Thanks for the replies, looks like two GV accounts are needed.   GrooveIP will call the other phone and it rings but no joy after that.

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  • Two SIP or VOIP standalone devices won't work within the same network since they will be sharing the same router ports and as mentioned earlier it will seem random as to which device gets them. Two separate accounts won't help in this situation but will work just fine if they are in different locations. I use an Obi device http://www.obihai.com/ with two GV accounts to ring a cordless phone. The 202 model would allow multiple simultaneous GV calls in the same network. You can add a BT adapter to connect you cell phones to the Obi 202. 

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  • Hmm... will have to test the two accounts on one network issue.  Running two dedicated vonage devices works fine, but they may have a smarter/variable port negotiation.

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  • Zarthan,

    SIP will work like a charm with several ATA's and smart phone clients and SIP accounts behind the same router. I have seen it said  (posted) like you say but it's really not a problem.

    There are a lot of options available not to mention SipSorcery dial plans. While no longer free, may well be worth the $35.00 a year which will let you use a free SIP account like IPKall and others for dialing out too.

    SIP also gives the benefit of calling each other SIP to SIP.

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  • Anything that uses fixed ports won't work. If you can set ports or ranges or you have a local SIP server then you are correct.  

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  • I haven't opened a port for SIP in my router in years.

    While it's possible to be stuck using a router that isn't SIP compatible, most are compatible.  

    I am using a Linksys presently with DD WRT but it worked with the default firmware as well and I previously used a cheap pos Airlink 101. All without forwarding ports on the router.

    I Use the default settings in Csipsimple for IPComms, Sipgate, Sipsorcery. same GV account plus two other GV accounts on 2 androids

    Using Acrobits SIP client on 2 unlocked and jailbroke 3G iPhones.(these are what my Ting replaced but almost worthless to sell) same SIP providers default settings same GV account plus two other GV accounts.

    Ports are defined and using STUN on the PAP2 on the same GV account using IPComms and Sipgate. Again no ports open on the router.

    Incomming calls to my GV number also forward for free to my free Skype account

    Plus tying in a free iNum, and free skype calling to my sip just for fun since I don't know anyone that would ever actually call me using an iNum or from a free skype account.

    When I test things over here it sounds like Billy Mays just knocked another five bucks off of a ten year supply of KaBoom!

    Thats 6 phones using the same credentials plus several other SIP configurations and 3 GV accounts all behind a pretty basic $25.00 router with no ports opened for SIP.

    All done with Free stuff.  You cant get a free Sipsorcery account anymore but the other necessities are still available from one provider or another for free.

    I don't recommend the free path unless you have the time or experience to set it up and feel comfortable dealing with issues without enterprise support.

    That said I've seldom had a glitch in over 3 years and none were local.

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  • You may not be setting ports on the router but that doesn't mean that ports haven't been opened. UPNP is available on almost all routers and it used by clients to dynamically open ports and as you mention SIP compatibility. You can't have a direct inbound connection through a NAT router without there being a forwarding of a port or ports or a prior established connection. 

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  • Neener neener

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  • Or a prior established connection. The ports will be random and generally above 32K but they are open. If you have a fixed set of ports for direct inbound connections they can not be shared.  

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